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Post by Tipp Ex Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:44 pm

Superb second half display when twas called for. Clear progress being made. Never an easy place to go and get the win. Should aim for 10 points in the division now

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Post by caughtforpace Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:11 pm

Great win. Ruari Deane motm. Honourable mentions for Mattie, Powter, CoC and Chris Og. Decent Cork following.

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Post by Ranty Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 pm

Thank God for Clare FM. You're spot on Tipp. Is that his name? Barry O Mahony? I switched over to Clare FM and truthfully an unbiased decent commentary apart from constantly telling us that the only place to buy grub is Jone's Supervalue in Milltown Malbay.

Powter 2-0
Mattie 1-0
Chris Og 0-3
Hurley 0-3 (F)
McSweeney 0-2
Deane 0-1
O Rourke 0-1

The lads in Clare FM gave us full credit for the victory apart from saying Devanney was a bit harsh with the penalty, which was saved anyway by Stephen Ryan who saved a few more as well.
Chris Og will have to learn to aim high from 5 yards like Seaneeee Shea did above in Omagh. Jack did a bitteen of spitting up north and after 3 losses we might have company in Division 2 next year?

For me the only negative is how slow they were introducing the subs and no game time for the Doheny's man Fionn Herlihy who was superb in the Sigerson semi final and final.
We always thought Daniel O Mahony was skating on thin ice and thankfully the rest of the defenders closed the gaps during his 10 minutes rest. He's a top class defender but we need him on the field, not in the dugout.
Mickey Harte, here we come, seeking revenge for 1957. lol

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Post by bittergaaman Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:51 pm

Derry and Louth left. We should beat Louth but Derry will be a different prospect. Hard one to call but Derry will be favourite. That opening loss to Meath is proving way more frustrating with each passing fixture. As was the referees performance v Dublin.

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Post by Ranty Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:26 pm

'Twas our shooting that cost us v Dublin.. 11 wides and the full forward line had 9 of them.
The ref cost us v Meath as he allowed O Sullivan about 10 steps while rounding defenders.
We are slowly getting there though and we'd trouble each and every Division 1 team now.


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Post by Tipp Ex Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm

What happened Sherlock today? He didn't start, he didn't come on did he?
Chris Óg Jones has been a bit of a find for us. Adding scoring to his playmaking now, great to see

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Post by Ranty Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:14 pm

Tipp Ex wrote:What happened Sherlock today? He didn't start, he didn't come on did he?
Chris Óg Jones has been a bit of a find for us. Adding scoring to his playmaking now, great to see

No he didn't appear today. Wasn't missed really as it appeared we didn't get many long range frees.
Corbett was on the ball often enough according to the lads on Clare FM but didn't score. They were full of praise for
Chris Og, Deane and Powter and Colm O Callaghan got honourable mention too.

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Post by caughtforpace Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:15 pm

Last ten mins of the first half was our worst spell of play in this year's league. Having comfortably weathered O Mahony's black card we proceeded to serve up a litany of the ills that have plagued us through the years. Despite the winning margin the game turned heavily in our favour between 40 and 50mins. They will still give us enough of it in 5 weeks time.
With our big men our long kickouts are becoming a very effective platform. While predictable we must have claimed 7 or 8 marks. Losing a kickout so close to the sideline isn't as dangerous as around the middle while it gives huge space for runners following a mark.
We seem to have a weak spot in our defense on our left flank. Numerous overlaps were created by Clare in this area today. I'm still not convinced by Maguire at CB. I'd prefer to see Meehan there but he was poor today after coming on.
Ian Maguire had a good second half but is a magnet for getting caught in possession. COC outstanding bar a silly retaliation while the game was in the balance. Mc Sweeney had a poor first half bar a good pass in the build up to Powters goal. Turned it around with 2 vital points while the game was a contest.
Corbett was very disappointing. Avoided taking contact at times which is not a good omen.
Hurley was so frustrating
Showed out in front only to bail out just as the ball is delivered.
Letting the ball beat him instead of securing possession might work against club corner backs but it's a joke trying it at this level.
Chris Og is improving steadily and will hopefully learn from the 4 goal chances he had today. Deane, Powter and Taylor were outstanding.

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Post by Podsy Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:24 pm

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Post by fullcourtpress Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:44 pm

Word is that Sherlock's foot is in a protective boot at the minute, no idea how serious it is but you'd imagine he'd be out for the next two games anyway. As others have alluded to Corbett didn't overly impress today, but he's still very new to this level and you can still see the soft hands, balance and vision he has - but he needs to show more movement off the ball and be a bit braver in taking on players. Hurley also wasn't brilliant, Cillian Brennan is a good full back in fairness and had his measure. Jones excellent again but I think another inside forward needs to start getting minutes somewhere because the volume of games with the restructured championship this year is huge. But its a very minor complaint to be having in comparison to this weekend last year after the hammering at the hands of Meath.

Defensively very solid again but some of Clare's shooting was shocking (although Cork left two gilt edged goal chances and a penalty go as well). Very refreshing to see a Cork team physically able to swarm teams when they're on the attack and turn over possession with regularity, after years of seeing games of opposition free takers padding their stats as a result of Cork backs not knowing how to tackle. The midfield duo is becoming more formidable by the game and on kick outs they're being ably assisted by Matty Taylor who seemed to emerge with a huge amount of breaking ball today. MOTM would then have to go to Ruairi Deane, who covered every blade and was like a battering ram in the second half tearing through the Clare defence from deep with regularity. He's played himself into the starting XV today regardless of when O'Driscoll is back fit, and provided more entertainment with the kisses he blew to the Clare fans when they were baying for him to be shown the line after his foul on Cian O'Dea in the first half.

Hopefully today marks the end of this long hex Clare have had over Cork, it won't be easy having to go there again so soon but there was a clear difference in attitude from Cork in first and second halves - from looking reluctant to take the ball into contact to running the legs off Clare and dominating physically. The Meath game is even more of a pity in hindsight as I'd be confident in saying this team is ready to go up to division 1, but I think we'll have games against division 1 teams over the course of the championship to judge properly.

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Post by Ranty Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:49 am

Tipp Ex wrote:What happened Sherlock today? He didn't start, he didn't come on did he?
Chris Óg Jones has been a bit of a find for us. Adding scoring to his playmaking now, great to see

A learned poster over yonder says he went over on his ankle during training on Thursday night.
Not a huge loss IMHO, even if he has his moments.
Killian O Hanlon is a better option on long range frees but he's only a bit player so far.
We really do need a regular starter capable of landing a 45 and 90% of the long ones.

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Post by Sinbin Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:16 pm

You'd have to say Cork showing real signs of progress. Cusack Park not an easy place to go and win at any time, in either code.

Team seems to be taking a real shape now and players understanding the system and each other's game. Fair to say Kevin Walsh is bringing a fair bit to the party too in terms of defensive shape & structure. Great to see the younger players coming through but equally great that there's a fair sprinkling of experience & maturity in Ian Maguire, Hurley, Taylor, Deane, Powter & O'Rourke, and all seem to be playing with a pep in their step.

That Meath result in the first game gets more and more annoying as the weeks go by.




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Post by Sean Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:48 pm

Clear progress and clear also Walsh is a major addition on the line, this is a well coached team, even our kickouts are planned.
Defence is certainly going well and the 2 midfielders are flying with o’hanlon to put real heat on here I think, half forwards are scoring which is great and all of them work hard.
Inside jones is doing well and hopefully that little bit of calm when in on goal will come…..Hurley is a fine player but totally inconsistent let’s be honest, Sherlock has to start as he is a quality free taker and can nail 45s and I would say scores more consistently from play then Hurley? Perhaps either way it’s a nice problem

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Post by Ranty Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:18 pm

They should try Corbett at No 14 and Mark Cronin at No 15 for the next game v Louth.
We need a leftie free taker and Cronin is no slouch in a 50/50 situation.
If Chris Og does manage to net those near ones he will have arrived for sure. Just now, he's missing far too many of those 5 yarders.
I don't have the % but from memory I don't think Sherlock's rate is high enough on the long ones? Might be nit picking there as he is a quality free taker.
Saw the highlights of the Louth-Kildare game on TG4 tonight and they will test our beliefs for sure. Mickey Harte seems to have them well tuned up and playing good lively football.

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Post by Podsy Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:57 am

Ranty wrote:They should try Corbett at No 14 and Mark Cronin at No 15 for the next game v Louth.  
We need a leftie free taker and Cronin is no slouch in a 50/50 situation.
If Chris Og does manage to net those near ones he will have arrived for sure.   Just now, he's missing far too many of those 5 yarders.
I don't have the % but from memory I don't think Sherlock's rate is high enough on the long ones?    Might be nit picking there as he is a quality free taker.
Saw the highlights of the Louth-Kildare game on TG4 tonight and they will test our beliefs for sure.   Mickey Harte seems to have them well tuned up and playing good lively football.

The Louth game will be interesting in terms of selection - are we safe for Sam Maguire yet, and can we really start to select a team with building for the Championship in mind?

I would also like to see how we cope without Jones's pace as that seems to me to be our best way of creating goal chances. Without him to stretch defences, we might be easy enough to mark as we come through the middle with runners. So, if Jones were to be unavailable do we have a Plan B ready?

With that in mind, I'd also like to see whether we have a Plan B for the half-forward line. At the moment Deane is playing well but a HF line of Deane, Powter and McSweeney would be heavy on the running and reliant on McSweeney for the kickpasses inside. Not sure that balance would be great against the massed defences of Championship.
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Post by Tipp Ex Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:20 am

Cathail O'Mahony had an operation last week and is out for the rest of the league and the start of the championship according to the Echo.
That fella has been totally mismanaged this year so far, ran into the ground

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Post by caughtforpace Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:24 am

I've always said that Hurley's inconsistency stems from his inability to adapt to the strengths of his marker. When he's matched for speed and his runs are covered, he doesn't have the smarts to adjust his approach. He has become so accustomed to gaining possession 2 yards in front of his man at club level he baulks when a defender is breathing down his neck. Twice on Sunday he bailed out of runs after the ball was delivered and on other occasions allowed the ball to beat him only to end up trying to pick in a poor position. All these balls were winnable out in front had he fully committed to the run. There is nothing more frustrating for an outfield player to see an inside forward hedging his bets when showing for ball. Hurley's plan B consists of standing behind his man with his arm in the air looking for some miracle pass over the top. This is both a coaching issue and a discipline issue on Hurley's behalf.

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Post by Sinbin Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:46 am

Ranty wrote:They should try Corbett at No 14 and Mark Cronin at No 15 for the next game v Louth.  
We need a leftie free taker and Cronin is no slouch in a 50/50 situation.
If Chris Og does manage to net those near ones he will have arrived for sure.   Just now, he's missing far too many of those 5 yarders.
I don't have the % but from memory I don't think Sherlock's rate is high enough on the long ones?    Might be nit picking there as he is a quality free taker.
Saw the highlights of the Louth-Kildare game on TG4 tonight and they will test our beliefs for sure.   Mickey Harte seems to have them well tuned up and playing good lively football.

Mickey Harte and "good lively football" in the same sentence??


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Post by caughtforpace Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:03 am

Two things concerned me about Corbett on Sunday.
He funked out of physical contact on a few occasions. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but I've yet to see a leopard change it's spots when it comes to this aspect of the game.
The second issue is a bit esoteric. His body language before and throughout the game was what I would call "Prancing". Think of how Alan O Connor used to carry himself and imagine the exact opposite of that. I hope I'm wrong but only time will tell.
Speaking of Alan O Connor, Sunday's program had a profile of Colm o Callaghan. He named AoC as his favourite player. A good omen.

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Post by Ranty Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:55 pm

Sinbin wrote:
Ranty wrote:They should try Corbett at No 14 and Mark Cronin at No 15 for the next game v Louth.  
We need a leftie free taker and Cronin is no slouch in a 50/50 situation.
If Chris Og does manage to net those near ones he will have arrived for sure.   Just now, he's missing far too many of those 5 yarders.
I don't have the % but from memory I don't think Sherlock's rate is high enough on the long ones?    Might be nit picking there as he is a quality free taker.
Saw the highlights of the Louth-Kildare game on TG4 tonight and they will test our beliefs for sure.   Mickey Harte seems to have them well tuned up and playing good lively football.

Mickey Harte and "good lively football" in the same sentence??

Well spotted Sinbin, but the two words in my final observation include the words "HIGHLIGHTS" and "SEEMS". Laughing

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Post by Podsy Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:56 pm

caughtforpace wrote:Two things concerned me about Corbett on Sunday.
He funked out of physical contact on a few occasions. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but I've yet to see a leopard change it's spots when it comes to this aspect of the game.
The second issue is a bit  esoteric. His body language before and throughout the game was what I would call "Prancing". Think of how Alan O Connor used to carry himself and imagine the exact opposite of that. I hope I'm wrong but only time will tell.
Speaking of Alan O Connor, Sunday's program had a profile of Colm o Callaghan. He named AoC as his favourite player. A good omen.

Corbett was an extremely hard-tackling and physical player in the 2019 Minor Team. Maybe the fear of the cruciate injury re-occurring might be bothering him? It happens.
Hopefully he'll get back to the same levels. I wouldnn't doubt him.
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Post by Ranty Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:22 pm

Esoteric..........intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest.

Nice word CFP. Didn't have it in my school way back then. Had to consult George Google.

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Post by Tipp Ex Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:43 am

The Louth captain Mulroy out for the rest of the league, big loss for them

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Post by Ranty Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:30 pm

Tipp Ex wrote:The Louth captain Mulroy out for the rest of the league, big loss for them

About time the wheel of fortune or is it misfortune swung in our direction.
Tough on Mulroy but holy mother of Morris Minors we have suffered more than most from these afflictions.
Should make our trip to Ardee less hazardous.

LOUTH STAR FORWARD Sam Mulroy will play no further part in Louth’s Division 2 promotion push in the Allianz Football League.

The Louth captain sustained a hamstring injury in their win over Kildare at the weekend and a scan has revealed the severity of a 12-week lay off

Having lost their opening two games to Clare and Derry, Mickey Harte’s side won three on the spin with Mulroy top scoring with 19 points.

The Naomh Mairtin forward will miss Cork’s trip to Ardee and if Louth win that game Mulroy will miss a potential promotion shoot-out between themselves and Dublin in the final round at Croke Park.

The news also means Mulroy is in line to miss their Leinster championship opener against Westmeath on 23 April. It is a major setback for Louth as the attacker has been a key figure for the county in recent seasons with some brilliant scoring displays.

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Post by Ranty Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:23 pm

The Cork Senior Football team to play Louth in Division 2 Round 6 of the Allianz Football League has been announced

1Micheál Aodh Martin (Nemo Rangers)
2 Maurice Shanley (Clonakilty)
3 Daniel O’Mahony (Knocknagree)
4 Tommy Walsh (Kanturk)
5 Luke Fahy (Ballincollig)
6 Rory Maguire (Castlehaven)
7 Matty Taylor (Mallow)
8 Colm O’Callaghan (Éire Óg)
9 Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs)
10 Eoghan McSweeney (Knocknagree)
11 Sean Powter (Douglas)
12 Ruairí Deane (Bantry Blues)
13 Brian Hurley (Castlehaven) Captain
14 Chris Óg Jones (Uibh Laoire)
15 Conor Corbett (Clyda Rovers)

16 Chris Kelly (Éire Óg)
17 Kevin O’Donovan (Nemo Rangers)
18 Sean Meehan (Kiskeam)
19 Paul Ring (Aghabullogue)
20 Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)
21 Shane Merritt (Mallow)
22 Paul Walsh (Kanturk)
23 Killian O’Hanlon (Killshannig)
24 John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
25 Fionn Herlihy (Dohenys)
26 Mark Cronin (Nemo Rangers)

Surprise, surprise.   I think this is the 4th week in a row that we have an unchanged team but the injuries to O Driscoll and Sherlock has meant a call to the bench for Paul Ring and Paul Walsh.    
The team for the All Ireland final barring injuries will be exactly the same.

BTW..........If you can't stand listening to that lad on C103 last time you should try www.lmfm.ie
I'm not sure if they are doing live commentary but staring at a blank screen/radio would be better that listening to yer man doing the Clare game.    Gimme a break.

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