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Post by bittergaaman Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:20 pm

Deane and Corbett invisible. No impact from the bench.

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Post by bittergaaman Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:22 pm

3 points from play so far in the second half. Brutal

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Post by Tipp Ex Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:23 pm

We just don't have enough scoring forwards. Tyrone swarming us everywhere and we're way too 1 dimensional. Ran out of ideas totally. D1 v D2 so obvious here
Red Card came way too late, we' were a busted flush by then. And still they're out scoring us

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Post by bittergaaman Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:28 pm

How Ref didn't give a black card for Mattie Donnelly ll never know

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Post by bittergaaman Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:32 pm

Why the FUCK did sherlock take a point with 90seconds left.

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Post by Tipp Ex Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:37 pm

Disappointing second half. Tough away game now ahead next weekend.
Tyrone are filthy. How Chris Óg Jones still has shorts on I don't know. God I hate them

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Post by bittergaaman Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:42 pm

What in God's name has happened Corbett. I was sure he was going to be a superstar

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Post by T. Leaf Sat Jun 15, 2024 4:52 pm

Sounded very tight to me all the way through up to the black card. That seemed to turn the game with Tyrone scoring 1-1 while Jones was off. Very disappointing way to lose.
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Post by Tipp Ex Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:06 pm

Yes the black card changed the game, Paul Walsh was also through on goal but fluffed it just before that
Cathail O'Mahony made his comeback - thats a positive. Corbett did nothing, doesn't seem to like the physical side of things. The size of him and all

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Post by Sean Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:25 pm

The Walsh miss was unbelievable, he was literally 10 yards out and it was easier to score, a huge turning point. We were well beaten today, well our thought on the line, no sub made a difference, seeing a senior player mis solo a ball summed up cork in the second half.
The team doesn’t score enough and once Tyrone see a few points up mid way through the second half it was over

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Post by Ranty Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:28 pm

The better team won. Neilan didn't give us much but that's nothing new.
Hard to know if Hurley's defensive ability was a bigger loss to Cork that Sherlock's scoring ability up front?
Sherlock scored 8. 2 from play and one wide from play which was really a no hoper.
Based on today's display I'd have him instead of Hurley.
Not an awful lot between them but Tyrone had better forwards.
Dr. Powter's graduation must have a bearing on his performance as it's not every day that a young man gets a medical degree.
He will have better days in red.
Chris Kelly lost just 1 from 17 restarts and Morgan lost 1 also but scored 3 points. One long free, 1 45 and another 1 from play.
WE lost by 4 so Morgan's contribution was immense in the overall scheme of things.
We had 6 wides, they had 4 and we gave it away cheaply four or five times which is why Tyrone won and we lost.
We might just about make Division 1 next year but we are not going to trouble any of the bigger teams this campaign.

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Post by fullcourtpress Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:13 pm

Deflating result and a disappointing way to lose. Played very conservative and, just like the Kerry game, when the handbrake needed to be left off in the last 10 minutes we seemed incapable of doing so. Not once did Maguire or O'Callaghan go in on the edge of the square for a high ball to be dropped in, fairly tepid way to lose it ultimately. Finishing third is harsh - we should have beaten Clare by more than two, but were never going to beat them by as much in Ennis as the other two were going to beat them by up the country. Going to presume that Dublin, Kerry and Galway win tomorrow so that leaves potential trips to Mayo, Armagh or Louth (would probably be in Navan). I would have considered the very upper limit of this team to get to an all Ireland semi final, based on getting top spot in the group and playing against a team that's not Dublin or Kerry who'd be flogged from a game the week prior. Unfortunately now that chance is gone, and we'd be doing very well to get to a quarter final based on the potential ties next weekend.

Not a huge amount between the two teams by any means but you always felt Tyrone were able to create scoring chances easier and that would matter. The key moments were the missed goal chance after half time and the black card. In the first instance, I thought Walsh may have been clipped as he pulled the trigger but there was no appeal so hard to know - he looked fairly unconvincing bearing down on goal though which doesn't help when the ref has a choice to make. For the black card, I thought a yellow would have been plenty but Morgan made an absolute meal of it. The same man had an absolutely brilliant game otherwise but it wouldn't a Tyrone performance without some bit of gamesmanship.

Biggest lesson from today I would say is that you cannot beat the better teams by conceding almost all the kick outs. Against Morgan it'd somewhat understandable because, as he showed in the final stages when Cork had to press up, he is ludicrously accurate allied with massive distance. But in the first half when the full forward line looked like they were motoring well and we generally had the measure of Tyrone, you need to try turn the screw and capitalise. It's exhausting for players to have to spend a couple of minutes keeping shape, tracking runners and trying to not foul with every possession the opposition has. The same tactics made heroes of a very limited Clare side in Ennis three weeks ago and nearly cost us dearly there. You have to mix it up against the better teams. There's so much height and size in this Cork team from numbers 5 to 12 that it doesn't make sense to not contest kick outs either. Regardless of opposition next week, we have to be more brave and take a risk.

Down but not out, a lot of players who played today are capable of better but still capable of beating any of the potential opposition, even on the road.

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Post by top of the right Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:17 pm

Thought Cork played well enough up to the time of the missed goal opportunity, but after that everything went down hill. Cork appeared very leg weary for the last quarter and the subs did nothing to alter the game. We badly need a replacement midfielder with 20 minutes to go, as we appear to disappear out of ges in that time. Tyrone were very economical with their possesion, as we seemed to snatch at opportunities. As an aside if you took out the Cork crowd todau from O Moore park,would there have been 3000 at the game.

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Post by Sean Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:33 pm

Look we are heading into games back to back and haven’t tried another midfielder all year, Corbett has lost form but maybe o’mahoney will offer something, it’s now settled Sherlock starts for frees at least and the fact he will take on a shot. Playing in the full back line for cork takes real balls as you will have 50 yards of space in front of you all day.
Subs are too predictable and offer nothing playing against a team camped inside their 45 who can tackle like Tyrone, this is where the total lack of game time for David buckley has cost us.
We’ll be competitive in salthill or Armagh for 50 minutes next weekend and lose again by 3/4 points

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Post by Sinbin Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:36 pm

It was my first time to see the Cork footballers in the flesh this year and I found it a very hard watch.

First half Cork were competitive even if it always seemed Tyrone were getting their scores easier. Second half was excruciating...I claim to be no expert on modern day Gaelic Football tactics but the slow & ponderous build up play wrecks my head. On the very few occasions we turned Tyrone over and a quick counter was on we looked like we could really trouble them, but we either weren't smart or quick enough or butchered the opportunity.

When you see the Tyrone goalkeeper sauntering around the middle of the field looking like he's prime Tom Brady without a hand being laid on him you do have to question our gameplan, and Gaelic Football in general.

I was right behind the goal for Walsh's chance early in the 2nd half...he just had to score that, players & teams at the top level finish those chances...and that's the difference.

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Post by Tipp Ex Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:43 pm

Walsh was pushed for that chance, ironically by the man of the match

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Post by Sean Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:05 pm

Tipp Ex wrote:Walsh was pushed for that chance, ironically by the man of the match

Well then he had to go down, he never looked like scoring as he bore down on goal anyway, a huge miss and would have radically changed things, top teams don’t miss those and we aren’t near a top team

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Post by Ranty Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:46 pm

Sean wrote:
Tipp Ex wrote:Walsh was pushed for that chance, ironically by the man of the match

Well then he had to go down, he never looked like scoring as he bore down on goal anyway, a huge miss and would have radically changed things, top teams don’t miss those and we aren’t near a top team

If we had Martin McNally the lad who did Mayo v Dublin today there was a chance of a penalty.
Tyrone got away with 'little' well timed pushes all day as did Dublin today.
Ring always studied refs and their likes and dislikes and made it pay.
No doubt Tyrone knew what Neilan would tolerate as did the Dubs today with McNally.
To summarise the GAA rules and their effectiveness, the team that cheats best will normally win.
I doubt if Cleary and Co. did much homework on Neilan.

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Post by Ranty Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:42 am

Louth it is so we still have a decent chance of going a bit further.
Mayo v Derry is a beauty and hard to call.
Galway v Monaghan less hard to call
Tyrone v Roscommon

I'm with, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Tyrone but each and every one of these
games depend on refs definition of a push and his ability to count steps.

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Post by bittergaaman Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:06 am

Louth will feel happy to have drawn us. That's unfortunately a mark of where Cork football has been over the last decade. But likewise we should be winning this one.

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Post by Tipp Ex Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:21 am

Well, lets think back to the league and what Louth did to us. Louth are well organised under Ger Brennan who is making a name for himself. Also, Sam Mulroy looks a serious footballer. I wonder will Louth bring us to some dump up North?
Both teams will be happy and it could have been worse for both

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Post by Sean Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:57 pm

Inniskeen at 3pm and it’s on GAA GO

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Post by Ranty Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:04 pm

Sean wrote:Inniskeen at 3pm and it’s on GAA GO

And we still have people complaining about having to pay €12 or €28 for 3 games instead of
a 6 hour drive to Monaghan with two or three meal stops and pay €20 or more to stand on a wet
bank with a smelly shed toilet facilities.

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Post by bittergaaman Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:10 pm

I'm a GAA GO fan but think Cork GAA public have been treated badly. Only 1 hurling game and 1 football game free to Air... I think it's 7 out of 8 games. For the GAA 2nd biggest market they should of at the very least shown Donegal V Cork. It wasn't clashing with anything at all... Only hurling game on RTE was Cork V Waterford.

Again. I'm a fan of GAA Go as we get to see matches that wouldn't have ever been televised but Cork above all Counties deserves a bit more than we got on RTE

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Post by T. Leaf Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:07 pm

GAA GO was a good idea in it's original intentions - to give those living abroad a chance to view matches. Putting matches for those living in Ireland behind a paywall is a different matter.

There have always been matches which couldn't be shown on live television and if those were the matches now being put on GAA Go, then all would be fine and rosy. Instead the GAA is picking prime matches for their little extortion racket, knowing that they are more likely to have customers for those.

There are three television companies operating in Ireland and two of them have multiple channels, yet the single channel company shows more matches than the other two combined. They know there is a market for those matches and I believe both RTE and Virgin would show them if they were permitted. But the GAA, of course, wants a monopoly
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